{"id":1978,"date":"2018-10-01T03:08:18","date_gmt":"2018-09-30T15:08:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.funk.co.nz\/blog\/?p=1978"},"modified":"2018-10-01T04:11:59","modified_gmt":"2018-09-30T16:11:59","slug":"solve-problem-high-frequency-trading","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.funk.co.nz\/blog\/business\/solve-problem-high-frequency-trading","title":{"rendered":"I've asked our government to solve the problem with high frequency trading"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Specifically, high frequency trading could be eliminated by packetising the buy\/sell orders into blocks;<\/p>\n<div>Let's say each block is 200 milliseconds (fifth of a second), then it wouldn't matter if \"mom and pop\" investors trades show up 1 millisecond past the hour or 198 milliseconds late because you'd:<\/div>\n<div>\n<ul>\n<li>trading is queued and done in batches each 200 ms<\/li>\n<li>this automatically makes it impossible to do spoofing, your order is now live for 200 ms<\/li>\n<li>better returns for investors due to less value taken by HFT (high frequency traders)<\/li>\n<li>buy\/sell announcements are published at same 200 ms delay<\/li>\n<li>all market participants have time to react, and send orders inside 200 ms, equally.<\/li>\n<li>those close to the market get less benefit now<\/li>\n<li>normal traders aren't having their order queues jumped by their broker<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div>This would eliminate any advantage from low latency network links to the exchange etc, and reduce or eliminate the time window for inside trading - say from stock agents who jump the queue to push up the price after seeing a large order come through - due to a privilege position in the network topology.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Some interesting articles about it:<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div 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data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.quora.com\/Wouldnt-eliminating-high-frequency-trading-stabilize-global-markets-and-aid-in-the-recovery-by-decreasing-volatility&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1538405584980000&amp;usg=AFQjCNHLM31ZaH5nFED5AvI2z8pNMvuA_A\">https:\/\/www.quora.com\/Wouldnt-<wbr \/>eliminating-high-frequency-<wbr \/>trading-stabilize-global-<wbr \/>markets-and-aid-in-the-<wbr \/>recovery-by-decreasing-<wbr \/>volatility<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/the-real-problem-with-high-frequency-trading-2016-1?IR=T\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/the-real-problem-with-high-frequency-trading-2016-1?IR%3DT&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1538405584980000&amp;usg=AFQjCNFqqgueQ_n9vM6hHlirsO4rdrBJPw\">https:\/\/www.businessinsider.<wbr \/>com\/the-real-problem-with-<wbr \/>high-frequency-trading-2016-1?<wbr \/>IR=T<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div>My 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